tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77529389572953931352024-02-19T04:50:00.071-05:00Finding FoleysAn adoptee's journey of discovery with genealogical information on Foley families in New York City and environsKarin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-67335885472210008142015-07-20T12:52:00.004-04:002021-11-04T16:09:48.629-04:00Are you new to DNA testing and trying to figure this all out?<div class="MsoNormal">
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We live in an impatient world, where instant gratification
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Unfortunately, the analysis of DNA is in most cases not a
magic bullet. We need to wait for
receipt of the test kit, then wait for the results to be processed and posted, then wait
while we work the results to find a common ancestor. All of this can take weeks, months, even
years. Occasionally there is the rare DNA match of a close relative such as a half-sibling or even a parent, but those are much less frequent, although it has happened. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The average adoptee/unknown ancestor search can take a minimum of 1,000 hours. Working on such a search for only one hour a day, 7 days a week, would
result in 2-1/2 years of analysis. A
recent birth mother "DNA only" find took over 5 years and the birth father is still
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I see so many people struggling and always the same question: "I got my DNA results. What do I do now?". There is no 1, 2, 3 bullet list on what to do next. It's not an easy subject and it's like learning a new language. I don’t tell you this to discourage you, but to make you
aware that there is more to DNA testing and results than most people realize. But I can tell you this....once you start to grasp some of the concepts, you are hooked and you need to know more. It's addicting. So yes, I confess. I am a "DNA junkie".<o:p></o:p></div>
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I started looking into DNA testing about 5 years ago. As an adoptee and not knowing who my
biological parents were, I theorized that anyone who matched me on my DNA would
be a cousin, albeit distant. Would it be possible then to find out the ancestry
of these DNA matches knowing that somewhere in that maize of ancestors I would find
mine too? At the time, it was only a theory but after speaking with others who
thought that the same process could possibly help adoptees and others with
unknown ancestors, I began to read everything I could get my hands on even
before I tested. I even went back to
college and took courses in DNA and bio-chemistry. I wanted to know what it was all about. Most things I had to read two, three or
even 6 times for it to soak into my brain and I could finally say “Oh, I get it
now!”. I subscribed to some mailing
lists about DNA and genetic genealogy.
Initially, I had no idea what they were talking about. Slowly, I was able to gain more information
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Out of all of this, with Rob Warthen and Diane Harman-Hoog,
a methodology and tools were developed to work these analyses. DNAGedcom.com went online in January 2013
soon to be followed by DNAAdoption.com. In
August 2013 we presented the first class to teach others how to use their DNA
to find those unknown ancestors. From that first class on Autosomal DNA grew other courses we now sponsor…..Y-DNA
Basics and First Look Intro classes on FTDNA, 23andme, AncestryDNA and
Gedmatch. We have taught over 900
people, many of whom have had great success in finding birth families and other
DNA ancestors.<o:p></o:p></div>
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All the classes are online. They run from one day for the Intro classes to 4 weeks for the Basic Autosomal DNA class, and can be worked within your own
schedule and time. A list of what we offer and instructions on how to sign up
can be found here: <span style="color: #0000ee;"><u>https://dnaadoption.org/search-steps/</u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: #0000ee;"><u><br /></u></span></div>
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If you are truly interested in learning how DNA can help you, for a small fee please consider joining us. Your success will be based on your own willingness to participate, learn from those failures, and put in a great deal of time to understand and get the answers. </div>
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We at DNAAdoption and DNAGedcom wish you great success in this new era of finding families through DNA.</div>
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Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-4411418525565000102013-10-08T09:28:00.000-04:002014-03-07T16:28:56.920-05:00It all began on July 26, 1982......<div style="text-align: justify;">
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Below is an email I sent back in September 2012 to the adoption lists I have belonged to with thanks to all the people who were involved in my search going back some 30 years. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i>I can tell you the exact date of when I started my search for my
birth family....it was July 26, 1982, 4 days after my 37th birthday.
I still have a copy of my letter and my application to ALMA. That
file has grown quite a bit since then. Thirty years later on
June 16, 2012 I posted the discovery of my birth mother.</i></i></span></div>
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<i>Since that time, the ride to complete confirmation, has had it's ups
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<i>On Friday, August 31, 2012 after 10 weeks of tortuous waiting - the
results of my DNA test from FTDNA with my brother and a 1st cousin
were posted. I got a double whammy - my brother, Robert, and I are
FULL siblings! Actually, my brother's initial response to my request
to test was somewhat of a rousing "No", but he came around (must be
my charming ways! <span class="moz-smiley-s1"></span>).
We always "thought" Robert Shumsky was my father and even had some
DNA evidence linking this family to me....but we were never quite
sure. (God Bless FTDNA!).</i></div>
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<i>I've blogged all the events of the last few months at Finding
Foleys, an adoptee's journey of discovery (including a very
touching conversation with my brother on my last entry <a href="http://findingfoleys.blogspot.com/2012/09/where-were-you.html">"Where
were you?"</a> ). Please feel free to add your email address there
for updates as I plan to add much more, especially a "How To...."
section. I want to share how WE did it and the resources available
for anyone seeking lost family members. I've used the skills I've learned over the years to help others find that lost high school buddy or their old BFF, but all along I have also been helping adoptees reunite with their unknown families even while looking for my own. A new breed of search angel is now established - a DNA search angel. And
I'm proud to say I have had several "finds" just in the past few months through
a combination of DNA matching and good old fashioned sleuthing.</i></div>
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<i>After several years of adding people to my private working family
tree at Ancestry.com based on my DNA results - it went PUBLIC
yesterday! I can't wait until I get a
message from someone saying "Barbara Foley didn't have a
daughter....who are you?"</i></div>
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<i>The "WE" in the previous paragraph? (Now I know I'm going to leave
someone out....but you know who you are!) Priscilla, Patty, Cece,
Gaye, Rob, Richard (Hill and Slaughter), Gabriele, Diane, Marie
Anderson of ALMA, everybody on the DNAadoption group, and even
Bennett Greenspan and Max Blankfeld of FTDNA who I understand from
Max has followed my journey - you all had a hand in this, some
huge, others just because you were there and followed this all
along. With the help of some awesome search angels we found my mother on June 14 in a matter of 2 hours when
that updated non-id arrived. FTDNA gets all the credit for PROVING
both my mother and my father. </i></div>
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<i>The words "Thank you" seem so inadequate. I am indebted to you all.</i></div>
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<i>I had my 67th birthday in July and never in a million years did I
think I would locate my family....but it can be done.<b> There is
hope for anybody still searching....lots of it!</b></i></div>
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<i>Love to you all,</i></div>
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<i>Karin Corbeil</i></div>
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<i><span style="font-size: x-small;">-- born Carol Lee Foley 7/22/1945 Brooklyn, NY</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="font-size: x-small;">mother found 6/14/2012 Barbara June Foley (1929-1961)</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="font-size: x-small;">father confirmed 8/31/2012 Robert J. Shumsky (1928-1985)</span></i></div>
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For me, this road began 9 months before I was born - in October, 1944 when I was conceived. I now know who my parents were and I have to believe that at that time, with the raging of World War II on everybody's mind and in everybody's life, that my parents, as young as they were, were overwhelmingly affected by it all. I imagine their conversations about the possibility of my father entering the service and the long term prospects of that. Would he ever return? Would he be the same person after returning? (My father did join the Navy in 1945). I imagine their need to reach out for love and closeness at the time and completely understand the beginnings of their yet to be born daughter. As an adult, I continued to wonder about who these people were and in 1982 began the search for their identity. They are now real people to me even though they are long deceased and I relish the thought of my upcoming trip to Connecticut to meet my only surviving close family member, my brother. Over the years I became heavily involved in the genealogy community, learning skills that would help me find my family. During this time I began to help others in their quest for unknown ancestors, whether they were adoptees or just someone stumbling over a brick wall. Over the past couple of years, I have become more and more involved with the Adoption and DNA communities. It has all evolved with a group of dedicated people into a new company being formed to help others find those family mysteries with the help of DNA - DNAGedcom, LLC. </div>
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We have announced the launch of a new website <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/">DNAGedcom</a>. </div>
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Thank you, Cece Moore, my friend, colleague and mentor, for posting this to your blog <a href="http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2013/01/brought-to-you-by-adoptiondna.html">YourGeneticGenealogist</a>.</div>
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I think most people know how highly I think of the work that the <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNAAdoption/" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">DNAadoption</a> Community is doing. They are a proactive group of incredibly intelligent and talented individuals who have banded together with a common cause - to give hope to all adoptees searching for their heritage. I am proud to say that I often collaborate with members of their community and can count a handful of them among my closest colleagues.<br />
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Fortunately, for the rest of us non-adoptees, their innovative work is starting to benefit us all. The methodology that they have created for their adoption cases has recently resulted in many success stories and can be applied to most any relatively recent genealogical brick wall. They have created ways to streamline the work of autosomal DNA matching and analysis and are now offering to share this with the rest of the genetic genealogy community.<br />
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The new website <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/">DNAGedcom</a> delivers some of the tools that are most often requested from the major DNA genealogy companies. In this first phase of development, developer Rob Warthen has recently enabled access for all users to the <a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/cj.aspx?ftdna_ref=497" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">FTDNA</a> Family Finder and <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/95104dlurlt8EDEEIA98AA9CB9G9" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">23andMe</a> downloads (though he cautions users that, at this early stage, there may still be bugs to work out). Through DNAGedcom it is now possible to download a full list of your matches, including the matching segment data from both companies. Those of us who have worked extensively with autosomal DNA for genealogy, know what a huge time saver this is. For me, with over 1000 shares on my main account at 23andMe, it has saved me tens if not hundreds of hours.<br />
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Users are required to register to use the site, but it is a quick and easy process.<br />
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This website is still in the early development stages, but intends to continue to deliver the most often requested tools to the genetic genealogy community. In fact, there is already a full featured phase two version of the site with even more highly desirable capabilities in development. (Rob tells me that improving AncestryDNA's functionality is next on the list!) The site is currently run solely on donations and affiliate income. The website agreement can be found <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/Agreement.htm" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">here</a> and is linked to directly from the home page. Any problems with the site should be directed to support@dnagedcom.com.<br />
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There are lots of exciting plans in store over at <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">DNAGedcom</a> and I am thrilled to be joining the team that will be further developing this groundbreaking new site. So far, we are:<br />
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Robert Warthen - Chief Technology Officer<br />
Karin Corbeil - Chief Operating Officer<br />
Diane Harman-Hoog - President<br />
James Kelley – Professional Technologist and Systems Programmer<br />
Gaye Tannenbaum – Technology Advisor<br />
Patty Drabing – Principal Researcher and Advisor<br />
CeCe Moore – Genetic Genealogy Advisor<br />
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Those of you familiar with adoption search, may recognize the names of some of our top search angels there. Their experience and expertise, combined with that of our very talented technology experts has made for a powerful team.<br />
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So, go <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/" style="color: #5588aa; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">check it out</a>, but please don't crash the server! (JK - Rob tells me it is stable.)<br />
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Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-49247474260314533362012-12-25T07:06:00.002-05:002012-12-25T07:06:55.591-05:00Christmas once again.....for real this time!<div style="text-align: justify;">
It's Christmas morning, December 25, 2012 and I'm so looking forward to this day with family.</div>
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When I first discovered my brother was a full sibling on August 31, 2012, I titled the post "Christmas in August". Little did I know then that it was an omen.</div>
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Christmas 2012 brought more to me than the usual this year. First, our beautiful granddaughter Madison Grace, now almost 9 months old has been a joy without a doubt. Christmas miracles come in all forms...and I got a huge one on Saturday of this week just 3 days before Christmas and the tears are still welling in my eyes.</div>
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For those of you who may not have been following my story, we found my birth mother in June of this year. I discovered I had a living brother who did DNA testing which confirmed us as full siblings in late August. He has been less than outgoing, so I have left him to his thoughts and we have yet to meet. Our mother died at the age of 32 in a car accident in 1961 when he was only 13. The car went over a hidden ravine and her body was not found for two weeks subsequent. Our brother David died at the age 29 in 1982. I felt that these tragic events played a role in his stand-offish attitude and maybe it brought back all that pain to him. So, I have not pressured him. We've only had a few phone calls and emails since September.</div>
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On Saturday, the mail arrived with two Christmas cards mailed from Connecticut. One from my lifeline to my Foley family and 1st cousin, Peter, who wrote me the most heart-warming letter, almost to the point of embarrassment. Through the tears, I could barely read the second card I opened. To my surprise and delight it was from my brother and his family. His wife, Sandy, wrote me the most awesome letter, that I will cherish for the rest of my life. She told me that Bob, my brother, just does not know how to express himself in regards to this discovery. He is a quiet man, very private, and will not share his emotions. But she knows he is absolutely delighted and overjoyed on finding a sister. They all are! She also told me that she has been married to him for 27 years and still doesn't know some things and said "Let's help each other and together, you and I, will learn more about your family." It was the best Christmas present I could have gotten.</div>
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I would have liked to have been on their doorstep this morning but will thwart my anxiety again and I will be going to Connecticut the week after Easter and the anticipation is killing me!!! </div>
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But it sure has been one heck of a year and Christmas came to me once again. Sometimes you just need to keep your exuberance and excitement to yourself for a period of time in order to let that full realization come to pass. In my case, it paid off.....bigtime!!!</div>
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Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-40751966263644151872012-11-26T16:31:00.000-05:002013-10-08T09:31:01.241-04:00New and Innovative Ways to Help Find Unknown Ancestors<br />
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Several years ago I began to study the possibility of doing DNA testing with the ultimate goal of seeing if it could possibly help me to find my birth family. I took a couple of courses on DNA at the local university and started reading everything I could get my hands on about DNA.</div>
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I contacted my good friend, Cece Moore, <a href="http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/" target="_blank">Your Genetic Genealogist</a>, who I had been corresponding with for years on our genealogical connections. Cece has become the guru of DNA information and analysis combining it with her love of genealogy. And basically this combination is beginning to become the new innovative method of identifying unknown ancestors, whether you are adopted or not.</div>
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Before I get into the DNA angle, let me list some suggestions for adoptees. </div>
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1. Put together a file with all the information you have on your birth and adoption, including copies of any birth or adoption documents that you may have and keep some kind of journal to record any progress.</div>
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3. Do you have non-identifying information provided by an agency? If not, it is one of the first things you should try and get, if available. If you are unsure as to how to do that,<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdoptionDNA/" target="_blank"> we can help</a>.</div>
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4. Are you registered with any state adoption registries? Have you posted your search to any online adoption registries or databases?</div>
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6. Depending on which state you were born and/or adopted in, you may already be eligible for original birth certificates or other information. Nineteen states do have some records open, either complete or partial. See list of states here: <a href="http://findingfoleys.blogspot.com/p/list-of-states-with-partial-or-full.html">List of states with partial or full open records</a><br />
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We also recommend you join the yahoo group <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNAadoption/" target="_blank">DNAadoption</a> at Yahoo groups, an extremely active group with experts in all areas of DNA and adoptee searching.</div>
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For males usually anything less than Y-DNA37 is essentially useless in identifying a surname. Males should have done at least Y-DNA37 unless they only have a few matches at a lower level. If you already have done Y-DNA12 or Y-DNA25 and you have a number of matches, you should upgrade to at least Y-DNA37. Males should also do their autosomal DNA ("atDNA") (Family Finder at <a href="http://www.ftdna.com/" target="_blank">FTDNA</a>; Relative Finder at <a href="http://www.23andme.com/" target="_blank">23andMe</a>).</div>
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Females should have their atDNA done (Family Finder or Relative Finder).</div>
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For both males and females, we have found that Mitochondrial DNA is not real helpful because it's usually much too far back (1,000s of years). For adoptees, it will be rare to find a match to your biological family in recent generations using only mtDNA. If you wish to have your mtDNA done you should have the Full mitochondrial sequence ("FMS") done.</div>
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If you have known living biological ancestors (such as you know your mother, but not your father) additional DNA tests should be done on those biological family members to help in possible phasing of your data (analyzing and recognizing the segments that are maternal vs. paternal) and possibly see other matches based on the randomness of DNA.</div>
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Once your test results are posted, you should download your raw data and upload to GEDmatch (<a href="http://www.gedmatch.com/">http://www.gedmatch.com</a>). Fishing in two ponds is better than one. Additional information and instructions to upload to Gedmatch can be found at <a href="http://www.dnaadoption.com/">http://www.dnaadoption.com</a></div>
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GEDmatch is a FREE, non-profit, “do-it-yourself” genomics website that allows DNA testers to upload raw data from FTDNA and other companies to compare with a large database of data that has been voluntarily uploaded by other testers.</div>
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I had my DNA first tested at <a href="http://www.ftdna.com/" target="_blank">Family Tree DNA</a> and also at <a href="http://www.23andme.com/" target="_blank">23andMe</a>. Both companies are recognized with state of the art testing, each has their pros and cons as I have discovered, but their analyses are well respected within the DNA community. I also more recently tested with AncestryDNA but that's another story for another blog post. Nothing wrong there, they are just not geared to those of us who are interested in more detailed information regarding our results. It can be helpful for some but since most adoptees have no idea of their ancestry, and have no family tree to link their results to, it may not be as helpful, unless you know at least some in your biological family and can post a tree to link your results.</div>
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For a female my only options were autosomal DNA ("atDNA") and/or mitochondrial DNA ("mtDNA"). At the time I was not well enough versed in which tests would give me the most bang for my buck, I opted to take the Family Finder (atDNA) plus mtDNA. The 23andMe test automatically includes both, and Y-DNA for males. These tests are not cheap and spending $300 is not unusual. Sometimes FTDNA and 23andMe run sales which can save you at least 20% if not more.</div>
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The day finally came when my results were posted. The dream of every adoptee is to have a 2nd cousin or better match on atDNA tests. A 2nd cousin match would mean that you shared the same great grandparents. As we only have a total of 8 great grandparents, this narrows down the field considerably of possible descendants who could be your birth parents. The further back we go the more descendants to wade through. But I was beginning to realize that it was not impossible.....difficult and tedious? Yes, but the thought entered my mind.....why hasn't this been explored further? My years of work in genealogy was the perfect match for attempting something like this. The skills I had learned could certainly be put to use in solving this mystery.</div>
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I joined a few adoptee mailing lists. Eventually I found the awesome and extremely active<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNAadoption/" target="_blank"> DNAadoption at YahooGroups</a> which had been recently started. Early on, not many of us were extremely well versed in DNA analysis but we all knew that this avenue of possibly solving the mysteries of our heritage was a new road we all wished to be traveling. Today there are close to 500 members of this group. We have people who are experts in Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, Y-DNA, German adoptions, search angels who comb records, and many others. I contacted Cece and told her about it and said, "We could really use your help here." She joined and has been one of our biggest assets and cheerleaders. We are all learning more and more and we all agreed that there definitely was a "method to our madness."</div>
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I also joined <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNA-NEWBIE/" target="_blank">DNA-Newbie at YahooGroups</a> moderated by Cece. Although not specifically geared towards adoptees, this list is a "must read" for anybody attempting DNA analysis. Another active mailing list is genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com which may address more complex matters regarding DNA but it is well worth putting on your reading list. A great place to learn.</div>
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Each day I learn something new from the people on these lists. The subject matter on DNA is excruciatingly complex. Many times I have to read an article 6 times for it to sink it. But the more I read, I realized that this intricate technology could be the latest innovation in finding my Foleys. The world of DNA is changing as we speak. Just in the last few months new discoveries and new methods are changing how scientists understand this once little known phenomenon. </div>
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Methods and tools are now being developed that will help adoptees in their searches. I met Rob Warthen on the AdoptionDNA list. His expertise in programming and development along with his inspiration to help find his wife's birth family has led him to pioneer the development of tools and programs that has eased the process of retrieving DNA data and make it easier to manipulate. His website <a href="http://www.dnagedcom.com/" target="_blank">DNAGedcom.com</a> is being developed to add these tools in a web based format. We all hope that 2013 will show a new growth of the use of these tools and programs with the ultimate goal of finding adoptees' place in their biological families.</div>
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Cece Moore, Rob Warthen and I recently spoke at the 8th International Conference on Genetic Genealogy in Houston explaining the methodology. It was well received and those of us involved are continuing to try and make it easier for adoptees to understand and use the tools. There is a light shining brightly at the end of that unknown tunnel and the methodologies have already been proven. I expect that in the next year or two as new developments occur in the field of DNA we will begin to see a flood of questions answered for many adoptees.</div>
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Richard Hill, one of my co-administrators at the Global Adoptee Genealogical Project at FTDNA, tells the story of his decades-long search for biological family and the innovative use of genetic genealogy DNA tests to identify his birth father. I highly recommend this well written book for anybody searching for their unknown ancestors. <a href="http://www.findingfamilybook.com/">http://www.FindingFamilyBook.com</a><br />
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Daughter of Edward & Helen Rasmussen Baum and Robert & Barbara Foley Shumsky</div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The horrible angst of waiting for my brother's and my cousin's DNA results; the fear and wonder, mixed with eventual joy, that proved (yes, PROVED) that we are fully related to the same parents. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">As you can see by these side by side photos of Robert and me when we were both about 17 years old, the resemblance is unmistakable.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">At about 5 p.m. yesterday I called the first person (other than my brother and cousin) who deserved to be on the receiving end of this outstanding news - my search angel extraordinaire. She was the one who quickly, within 2 hours, put all the pieces together for me back in June once my newly updated non-identifying information was received and sent me down the road to discovery. There are many out there like her, too numerous to mention, but you know who you are. And they provide these services for free. They don't even require a "Thank you". Their work benefits many but as she once told me, the rewards to them in return is a hundred fold.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">New cutting edge technology involving DNA testing is beginning to open doors for adoptees and anyone with questions about their ancestry. I personally have seen the methodology of using DNA with a combination of good old fashioned sleuthing WORK. I know of 3 "finds" alone last week. Companies like FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) have given adoptees and others a true gift. There are others, like 23andme who also provide great resources but FTDNA is geared towards genealogy and in my humble opinion is #1 for this purpose. Others may disagree but I have tested at FTDNA, 23andme and AncestryDNA and in the end FTDNA is the easiest and most useful for adoptees. If you want to take advantage of the health testing at 23andme you can then have the option of uploading your raw data to the FTDNA database for a reasonable cost. Fishing in two ponds is always better than one.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Aside from the joy of my own discovery using FTDNA, it has been a real learning experience in that it has really added to my knowledge of how DNA is so randomly handed down. I also believe it will help me weed out other maternal vs. paternal matches, because Peter has a different father than Robert and I do. Anyone that matches all 3 of us with an overlap will theoretically be my maternal side. Anyone who matches me and Robert but not Peter should theoretically be my paternal side. This is also where the X chromosome matches to Robert and Peter can be helpful. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I wasn't even hungry for dinner, my hunger lied in learning more about the parents that gave birth to me. Hubby insisted I get away from the computer and phone for a bit, go out with him to have something to eat and later make those phone calls to Robert and Peter. Upon our return I was anxious to get on the phone and share the news with Robert and Peter. I called my brother, Robert, first.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: Hello, Robert?</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert: Yesssss, who is this?</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: It's Karin.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert: Who?</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: Karin!!!</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: IT'S YOUR SISTER! I got the DNA results back today and not only is your mother my mother but your father is my father as well. We are full siblings! <i>(without taking a breath)</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After much laughter and verbal jousting on both our parts the conversation turned to questions from me about his family, his wife, his children. We eventually drifted to talk about our mother. I could hear the emotion in his voice and he almost sounded like he was crying. I told him, once again, how sorry I was that he had lost our mother at such a young age. (She died at age 32 in a car accident in 1961 when he was only 13. The car went over a hidden ravine and her body was not found for two weeks subsequent.). </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert: She was the most beautiful woman I ever knew.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: She certainly was. I have wonderful pictures of her that Peter sent me.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After a moment of silence, his voice cracked.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert: Where were you when I needed you most?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">My heart absolutely broke.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert: WHERE WERE YOU, KARIN?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">And then I could hear him literally swallow a sob. I didn't know what to say.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i>Oh, dear God....is he still, after 50 years, mourning the loss of his mother?</i></span>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Karin: Robert, I didn't know! I was living on Long Island and had no idea about what was going on in your life. I didn't even know you existed! But I am going to come visit you real soon. And I promise to give you the biggest hug you have ever gotten. It's all going to be okay. I'm here now!</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After a little breather and another tissue to mop my face, I called my cousin Peter. No one answered so I left a message: "Peter, this is Karin. I just got back the results of our DNA tests. Call me back....quickly!"</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Within minutes he called back and said, "You don't even have to tell me, I heard it all in your voice on the message. Congratulations and welcome to the family. I'm so happy for all of us - so when are you coming to Connecticut?"</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We spoke for about an hour.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>But I was haunted.....I think I will always be haunted....</b></span><br />
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<i>"So I pass the time writing this blog, hoping that the next time I log into my DNA account, the chromosome browser will light up like a Christmas tree. Hmmmm?...Christmas in August??? Let's hope so."</i><br />
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<b>It's Christmas in August!</b><br />
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The minute I posted that last blog, I did go the FTDNA site and logged into Peter's (my presumed 1st cousin) account. Did I ever get the surprise of my life.....literally. Robert's (my presumed brother) DNA results were not due until late September, early October. But Robert was listed as his match! His results had posted also. My heart beating so I could hear it. I quickly logged into my own account and there was Robert listed and next to his name under "Suggested Relationships" is <b>FULL SIBLING</b>.<br />
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The chromosome browser lit up with lots of blue, showing where Robert matched me. The orange is where Peter matches me. Look at all that blue!!!! The specific numbers show a definite full sibling relationship.<br />
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I am still trying to absorb all of this. It's late and I'm exhausted. Tomorrow is a new day with a new adventure ahead.<br />
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Thanks to all who helped me in this search and journey that began in 1982. But now.....it's another beginning.<br />
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The waiting is over,<br />
Karin Corbeil<br />
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<br />Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-87364520409131349622012-08-31T16:29:00.000-04:002012-09-03T09:04:42.702-04:00Waiting......As I sit here....waiting.....waiting.....waiting. It's been over 5 weeks since my presumed 1st cousin's DNA arrived at the labs of FamilyTreeDNA. My presumed full brother's test won't be completed for at least a few more weeks.<br />
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Over two weeks ago the test batch my cousin is in (#474) started to post some results....that was August 10th. What's today? The 31st (Oh dear God....that's another story, I'm usually not superstitious, but that is not a good omen). So it's been 3 WEEKS!<br />
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Many people today are having their DNA tested, mostly to try and make family connections to confirm their ancestry or for health related reasons. <br />
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And then there are people like myself who, after 30 years of searching and over 60 years of wondering, just barely 11 weeks ago, identified my birth family. People I've never met and have never known. People I would like to know and share the story of my life with. People I would like to have share the stories of their life with me. People who knew my deceased mother, my deceased father and my deceased brother. People who could tell me what they were like, what they loved to do, what they hated to do. Such simple things that most everybody else takes for granted and never gives it a second thought.<br />
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My cousin's DNA test will confirm or deny my birth mother. My brother's test will confirm or deny my birth father.<br />
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The 31st? Days of loss in a life I never knew. My birth mother signed the adoption relinquishment papers for me on July 31st. She died on July 31st. And you guessed it, my father died on July 31st. Thank God today is NOT July 31st....but it's August 31st....and waiting...still waiting.<br />
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Now wouldn't you be just a tiny bit anxious if you were in my shoes???? So I pass the time writing this blog, hoping that the next time I log into my DNA account, the chromosome browser will light up like a Christmas tree. Hmmmm?...Christmas in August??? Let's hope so.<br />
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Waiting,<br />
Karin Corbeil<br />
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<br />Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-85515340281289110492012-06-26T08:15:00.001-04:002012-09-03T09:03:51.434-04:00DNA to the Rescue.....Finding my Mother and now my Father!To continue from my recent previous post in locating my birth mother.<br />
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I have been in contact with my birth family. I have a living full brother who is understandably overwhelmingly shocked. We will just take baby steps. The son of my birth mother's sister, a 1st cousin, has been extraordinarily welcoming and we have talked several times. He is putting together a box (a BOX!, not an envelope) of photos and other family memorabilia for me, including my mother's baptismal certificate and pictures of her from the time she was a child. My cousin and I have already developed a wonderful rapport and he has been totally supportive. But the question still nagged at me....Who was my father?<br />
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DNA was not the avenue that identified my mother but I am now confident that it has identified my father.<br />
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After a week of absorbing all the information, I finally went and checked my Polish DNA matches. I never knew what to do with them before I had at least a surname. My father was of Polish descent with a somewhat uncommon surname. At least it wasn't Kowalski - the Polish equivalent to "Smith"! My mother got pregnant at the age of 16, the facts are is that my father was 17. A year or two after I was born she married. And I totally believe she married the man who was my father.<br />
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In looking for his surname, I was able to determine that there were 2 of my matches on FTDNA, 1 match on 23andme and a 4th match on Gedmatch who all matched each other and they all have my father's surname in their ancestry. All of these matches were managed by the same person. She lives in Belarus and only speaks and writes Russian. The most recent common ancestor is probably back in the early to mid 1700's and we are probably no closer than 5th cousins. Needless to say, the challenges seem to be endless. Regardless, with my gut instinct and knowing a little bit more about my mother's history, the common surname and matches, the overlapping segments especially on Chromosomes #2, 3, 4 and 12, can only lead me to conclude one thing...<b>the man that my mother married was also my father.</b><br />
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The screenshot below is from FTDNA chromosome browser of the two Family Finder matches from this family. Notice the nice overlaps on Chromosome 3 and 4. The other two matches from 23andme and Gedmatch also overlap at the same segment location!!!:<br />
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So I'm comfortable with my conclusion (or maybe I should say "confusion") that <b>DNA has identified my father.
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What's next you may ask? As I discover more, my "To do" list is never-ending. I believe I may also have some half-siblings, as my mother died young at the age of 32 in a car accident. My father remarried a few years later. I have been active, although on the fringe, of the Adoptee Rights movement and will definitely become more involved, especially in New York and here in South Carolina. Access to original birth certificates should be everyone's right...not a privilege. I will also continue to help other adoptees in their searches in any way I can possibly contribute.<br />
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<b>A special thanks to all those who helped me in this continuing journey....you know who you are!</b><br />
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Karin Corbeil<br />
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<b><a href="http://findingfoleys.blogspot.com/2012/06/have-i-found-my-birth-family.html">BACK</a></b>Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-85892948208507981192012-06-23T10:27:00.000-04:002013-05-07T09:36:10.250-04:00Have I Found My Birth Family? Overwhelming Circumstantial Evidence!<br />
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Last week I received some additional non-identifying information from the adoption agency that within hours led to the discovery of a FOLEY girl from Connecticut. The 3 new little clues that I received coincided with much of the information my adoptive parents told me and out of every FOLEY girl found in the 1930 and 1940 censuses, she is the only one that fits.<br />
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I have already spoken with a few of this FOLEY family's members. I believe I have a full brother, as I believe his father was also mine. We found a yearbook picture of him and the resemblance to me is unmistakable, almost shocking. I talked to him last Tuesday. He was, needless to say somewhat shocked, but receptive, and listened to my story most attentively. I think he just needs some time to absorb it all. I will give him all the time he needs.<br />
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A cousin I spoke with was ecstatic and has agreed to do a DNA test.<br />
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With this discovery, I again spoke with the adoption agency and after a little tap-dancing around, I shared with them the information....names, places, etc. Remember, we are dealing with New York State and their archaic adoption laws....no response or confirmation, except one sentence. "Perhaps confirmation isn't necessary as you seem to have done your homework."<br />
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That was good enough for me! Sometimes reading between the lines is all that it takes.<br />
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Something my cousin told me....there was a rumor years ago in the family that possibly one of the FOLEY girls from this family "lost a baby girl". My cousin always assumed that someone had a miscarriage but he and I now believe that this "lost baby girl" was ME!<br />
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Until this FOLEY family is totally comfortable with all this and/or the DNA results give us the proof, I will not identify them by name out of respect for my deceased mother who died quite young. It's apparent that this family had several tragedies over the years and I'm hoping that my existence may bring a little joy and brightness to their lives.<br />
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A special acknowledgement to all those that helped me on this journey, you know who you are...you are the best!.<br />
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Stay tuned.....much more to come, I'm sure.<br />
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My research continues with a little progress each week. I now have surnames to work with! And with a few surprises in the mix. It's an amazing feeling, that only an adoptee can understand, to know that there are real flesh and blood people out there who you are related to. It may be a long road before I have all the answers, if ever, but I am confidently moving in the right direction.<br />
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Best wishes for a glorious holiday season and may 2012 all bring us the best of everything!<br />
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We're off to the Caribbean for a week with the family! Bon voyage.Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-5290642027479902022011-11-22T10:25:00.000-05:002011-11-23T14:22:11.393-05:00Another FoleyI'm afraid Alice is going to have to take back seat for a while until I figure out my newest and latest DNA match who also happens to be a Foley!<br />
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After months of hoping, wishing and praying of getting a "Foley" match to my DNA, my prayers have been answered. <br />
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Last week a barrister from Dublin, Ireland wrote me whose surname is Foley. He had requested to share genomes <em>(a genome is the entirety of an organism's hereditary information)</em> at 23andMe <em>(a genetic testing company...</em><a href="http://www.23andme.com/" target="_blank"><em>23andMe</em></a><em>)</em>. We didn't show a match. <br />
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He suggested I join the Leinster project at <a href="http://www.ancestor-projects.com/" target="_blank">Ancestor-Projects</a>. I have small matches with 14 out of 16 people on that project. Then I went to Gedmatch <em>(</em><a href="http://www.gedmatch.com/" target="_blank"><em>GEDmatch</em></a><em> provides tools for making comparisons between genealogies and DNA test results)</em> . He also was tested at FTDNA <em>(FamilyTree DNA, also a genetic testing company...<a href="https://www.familytreedna.com/l" target="_blank">Family Tree DNA</a>)</em> and our FTDNA results do show a match. Somewhat small but with an MRCA <em>(Most Recent Common Ancestor)</em> of 6.7....meaning we may share maybe a common 4th or 5th great grandparent. <br />
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I'm currently analyzing common matches with him and some others that we both match....and there are quite a few. <br />
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This opens up some other options in that it gives me additional surnames....Cahill, Farrell, Callen, Carr and Neill. It also shows me where my Foley ancestors may have been originally from....County Kildare, Ireland. <br />
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Comparing FTDNA kit F20XXXX and F15XXXX results (MRCA 6.7 generations): <br />
Chr Start End cMs SNPs <br />
5 164.8 166.8 3.4 569 <br />
7 88.7 92.5 3.2 756 <br />
14 22.3 23.9 5.0 583 <br />
16 12.1 13.5 4.2 563 <br />
17 53.3 56.8 3.1 570 <br />
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Total cMs 18.9 Longest 5.0 <br />
Total SNPs 3041 <br />
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Comparing his other FTDNA kit 15XXXX with my FTDNA F20XXXX (MRCA 7.0): <br />
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Chr Start End cMs SNPs <br />
9 21.9 25.7 5.0 368 <br />
10 55.4 60.6 3.8 327 <br />
11 42.4 58.1 5.3 418 <br />
11 85.1 91.3 3.7 391 <br />
14 22.3 25.6 7.6 351 <br />
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Total cMs 20.4 Longest 7.6 <br />
Total SNPs 1855 <br />
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<em>Acronyms used and their definitions:</em><br />
<em>Chr = Chromosome - a structure in the nucleus containing a linear thread of DNA which transmits genetic information.</em><br />
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<em>cMs = centimorgans - a unit of chromosome length where a spacing of one centimorgan indicates a one per cent chance that two genes will be separated by crossing over. Crossing over is a genetic operator that varies a chromosome's programming between generations.</em><br />
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<em>SNPs = Single Nucleotide Polymorphism; a variation in the genetic code at a specific point on the DNA.</em><br />
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<em>Start and End = where exactly on the Chromosome the match begins and ends.</em><br />
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I suppose that this is all Greek to most people....and it was to me at first. <br />
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Enough to say that there are lots of folks who are skeptical of these shorter matches. They say it could just be a false positive. However, many have proved it on paper enough times to think they are real. <br />
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Now, my question to all the experts out there. Based on the DNA comparison.....am I really related to him? <br />
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For the time being, until somebody tells me I'm wasting my time, I will continue to look for our common matches and hopefully discover someone with a well documented family tree and see if I can slip myself into it! <br />
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Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving to all!!Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-18924336112777073172011-11-16T05:18:00.000-05:002011-11-23T14:22:38.002-05:00Alice...where are you?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Since Alice Foley is said to be "Miss Alice Foley" in the marriage citation, I have to assume that she was not married before. She would have been 39 years old at the time of her marriage. </div>
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When looking at census information we must take it all with a grain of salt. Enumerators notoriously made errors. We also need to look at alternative name spellings, the neighbors surrounding a family, similar surnames of families in the area, occupations and anything that might point us in the right direction.</div>
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I once found a marriage in Pennsylvania to an elusive Purdy family by noticing a neighbor who had a daughter that fit the name and age of the person I was seeking. Eventually I was able to find a marriage record.</div>
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So where was Alice in 1880 prior to her marriage? There is one Alice Foley of the right age, living in a San Francisco asylum and she is noted as "idiotic". Very doubtful. Another Alice, slightly older living with her sister Ann Brisbon in Shieldsville, MN....again doubtful. An Elyce Foley living in New York City, working at Bellevue Hospital...but she is noted as a widow. Not having much luck in 1880, I turned to 1900 to see if I could find Charles McCarthy with a wife Alice and two daughters. Again....little luck. I also tried a Charles McCarthy with a wife Mary....maybe her name was Mary Alice? No one seems to fit.</div>
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So I then turned my attention to another Charles McCarthy living in Southold. He was born circa 1860 in New York, parents born Ireland. I can't help but think that he is somehow related to Alice's husband Charles McCarthy. Is this her stepson? He is of an age where he could be a son of Alice's husband by a previous marriage. </div>
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Alice Foley McCarthy was born circa 1844</div>
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She married Charles McCarthy on 20 Sep 1883 in Southold, NY</div>
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She was from Brooklyn, NY at the time of her marriage.</div>
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She gave birth to two daughters, Mary c. 1885 and Annie c. 1887</div>
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She was widowed before 1910 and living on Shelter Island, NY</div>
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She died on 2 Jul 1920 probably at her daughter Mary's 133 Central Ave., Greenport, NY</div>
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She is buried in St. Agnes Cemetery, Greenport, NY</div>
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Daughter Mary married Gustave Lellman and they had 6 children by 1918. Gustave died in 1917.</div>
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While looking for Alice and her daughters, I came across some newspaper articles relating to Mary's husband. He appears to have died accidentally in January 1917.</div>
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Unfortunately even though Gustave survived the accident itself, he died shortly thereafter on January 22, 1917. And we now also know that probably unbeknownst to Mary she was pregnant at the time of his death, as Margaret was born 8-9 months later.</div>
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Did anybody pick up on a descrepancy from these newspaper articles? We'll dicuss that when I return from Atlanta in a few days. And we'll dig out the New York State censuses for 1892 and 1905 and continue our quest for Alice and her husband.<br />
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And I will also tell you about my latest DNA match....who happens to be a Foley!<br />
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Having grown up on Long Island myself, I have been to Greenport, which is located near the very eastern end of the northern fork of Long Island. A pretty little town with a long history of shipping, trade and taking advantage of the bounty of the sea. Founded in 1640 by Barnabas Horton whose granddaughter Phoebe Horton married Daniel <strong>Purdy</strong> around 1705. </div>
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Remember that little note for Mary Lellman "buried in St. Agnes cemetery" that someone added to her name in the 1920 census? The results of that tiny hint were enormous. The person that posted that reference is the same one who posted the pictures of their graves on the <a href="http://www.findagrave.com/" target="_blank">Findagrave website</a> . This added much more information on Alice Foley McCarthy and her family, but also added many more pieces to the puzzle. Alice is buried there along with her daughters, their husbands and her grandchildren:</div>
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Also buried here are Alice's daughter's husbands....Gustave Lellman (1884-1917); Alfred Huggler (1880-1962)<br />
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And the names, birth and death years of 4 of her grandchildren:<br />
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Charles L Lellman (1907 - 1977)<br />
Alice Gertrude Lellmann Barnes (1909 - 1932)<br />
Gustave Edward Lellmann (1912 - 1989)<br />
Virginia Lellmann Wells (1916 - 2006)<br />
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But where are the other two children, Caroline and Margaret?<br />
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We find Gustave and Mary Lellman in the 1910 census with two children, Charles and Alice. This also tells us that Gustave and Mary were married sometime around 1907.<br />
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Source: 1910; Census Place: Manhattan Ward 19, New York, New York; Roll: T624_1041; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 1096; Image: 709; FHL Number: 1375054. Living at 26(?) Second Ave., New York, NY<br />
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This confirms Mary's husband's name as Gustive/Gustave. Now, let's look at the 1930 censuses. And we now see that Mary McCarthy Lellman married again to a "E. Frank Griffing".<br />
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Source: 1930; Census Place: Greenport, Suffolk, New York; Roll: 1652; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 126; Image: 298.0. Living at 547 Third St., Greenport, NY<br />
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In trying to determine the whereabouts of the missing children of Mary who are not buried in St. Agnes' , the 1930 census tells us that Margaret is still alive but we find nothing yet on Caroline who was age 8 in the 1920 census. It is possible that she was already married. But I find no "Carolines" of the right age in the area.</div>
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There are also some McCarthys and Foleys buried here that might lead us to Alice's family and her husband.<br />
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I then remembered an information database from Long Island - part of which is on <a href="http://ancestry.com/" target="_blank">Ancestry.com</a> and another part is found at the <a href="http://apa3.olivesoftware.com/Default/Skins/Suffolk/Client.asp?Skin=Suffolk&AppName=2&AW=1321286906356" target="_blank">Suffolk County Historic Newspapers</a> site. My hunch was right and I found Alice's marriage record....or at least the newspaper article pertaining to it. In fact I found <strong>two</strong> resources!<br />
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The fact that she was married by a priest whose name was the Rev. R. S. Foley may also help us in determining her parentage, as it may be that she was related to him. I am somewhat familiar with this Father Foley....he is Richard S. Foley (1850-1907) and he built St. Agnes Church, Greenport in 1883. I do know that he was born in Ireland and that his mother's name was Catherine. Catherine was born circa 1810-1815. In 1900 Richard is living in Brooklyn, NY (where Alice is said to be from in the marriage notice); in 1880 he is in Southold with his mother, a niece, Katie b. c. 1861, and a nephew, James, b. c. 1863. So we know he had at least one brother. Tomorrow we'll look further into Richard Foley's family and see if we can find Alice in 1900 and possibly 1880, as well as look further into finding daughter Caroline. And what happened to Gustave Lellman...he died so young?</div>
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<br /></div>Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-71073681812740466642011-11-13T05:31:00.000-05:002011-11-23T14:23:26.359-05:00DocumentationFinding sources for documenting an individual is the backbone of genealogical research. Sources are usually either considered "Primary" or "Secondary".<br />
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Primary records are usually those created shortly after an event by someone having personal knowledge of the event. A birth or death certificate would fall into this category. Aunt Jane's letter to your father may tell you about a birth date or death date but my own research tells me to be cautious in documenting this as a primary source. Primary records are obviously the preferred sources for establishing historical facts. <br />
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Secondary records are generally compiled from a primary source or written from memory long after the event....such as Aunt Jane's letter. Sometimes we may need to rely on these sources if no primary resource is available.<br />
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We then need to cite these sources to our individual in order to have a documented record. Your sources must be written so that anyone can retrieve the same data bringing credibility and traceability to your family history.<br />
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There are so many "closet" genealogists today who think that just by posting information about an individual gives it credibility.<br />
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Here's an example of poor documentation. It shows a marriage date of 19 Jan 1869 in Salem, Massachusetts (which may be correct) but doesn't tell us where they got the information from. The second image shows a Loretta Foley Metscher's death documentation via the posting of the obit, and where the obit was found. It only takes a few extra seconds to add this information and<b> I just wish more people would take the time to better document their information.</b><br />
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Now, the above Loretta Foley also happens to be one of the women I am looking at who possibly could be <b>my birth mother</b>. Why is she a candidate? Based on my non-identifying information she fulfills some of the clues:</div>
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1. She is of the right age....my birth mother was 16 yrs. old at my birth.</div>
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2. My non-id info states that my birth mother was Methodist. I believe Loretta was of the Methodist faith as her son Richard was confirmed in a Methodist church.</div>
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3. She was born in Queens County, NY and certainly within easy distance of where I was born in Brooklyn, Kings County, NY.</div>
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The only reason why she is not on my priority list, is that her mother was Irish. My non-identifying information shows my birth mother's ancestry as "American/Polish". My DNA profile confirms the Polish link, but this could be through my birth father who was 17 at the time of my birth and whose ancestry is said to be Polish. But I continue to leave no stone unturned.</div>
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The 1920 census gave me a little surprise in that Alice was still alive in April, 1920 and daughter Mary was a young widow with 6 children. I guess probate in the 1920's moved along much faster than it does today!</div>
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Alice Foley McCarthy - 1920;Census Place: Southold, Suffolk, New York; Roll: T625_1268; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 153; Image: 516. Living at 133 Central Ave., Greenport, NY</div>
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This gives us the approximate age of Mary, born circa 1885, and we can guess by the age of her youngest child that her husband must have died sometime between January 1917-April 1920. Mary's daughter Margaret is shown here as being born Oct 1917, so he had to be alive 9 months prior to her birth.</div>
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Notice on the initial record page for this census enumeration....at the top under Mary's name are two corrections. This is where Ancestry.com's platform can be most helpful in finding more clues. One of the names has a link, the other does not. The one that does not have a link just means that the person who initially put this update to Mary no longer is an Ancestry.com subscriber. The one with the link is still a member and when we click on that link this is what we find out:</div>
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The family name is Lellmann. This on their tombstones at St Agnes cem in Greenport LI NY.<br />
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<br />Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0133 Central Ave, Greenport, NY 11944, USA41.10524 -72.3572741.103744500000005 -72.3597375 41.1067355 -72.3548025tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-21187367465522325322011-11-12T05:43:00.000-05:002011-11-23T14:23:49.798-05:00The Process BeginsIn order to begin this journey I use the BCG (Board for Certification of Genealogists) guidelines to map my search. It is the secret to good genealogical research.<br />
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So based on this, I first need to define my goals for Alice:<br />
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1. Is she related to other Foleys found on Long Island?<br />
2. Who were her parents?<br />
3. Did she have any siblings?<br />
4. The ultimate goal is connecting her to other Foleys on Long Island.<br />
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Then, based on the newspaper article....what do we already know about her?<br />
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She died before July 23, 1920.<br />
She had at least 2 daughters – Annie and Mary.<br />
She had at least 1 grandson – Charles L. Lellman.<br />
She lived and/or died in or near Greenport, Suffolk County, New York.<br />
Daughter Annie married a man with the surname “Huggler” and Annie lived in Manhattan, NY. Daughter Mary married a man with the surname “Lellman” and lived in Greenport, NY.<br />
She left an estate worth $11,200 in 1920.<br />
She “probably” was a widow when she died. ("Probably" because there is no husband mentioned in the estate notice.)<br />
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Now, we're ready to start searching those "reliable sources".<br />
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The first place I looked was the 1910 census since I know she died before July 23, 1920 and we find her living on Shelter Island, Suffolk County, NY. She is living alone, age 62 and a widow.<br />
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House #67; Enumeration #69; McCarty Alice Head of household; Female; White; age 62; widow; 2 children born; 2 children living <br />
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Born Ireland; Parents born Ireland; Speaks English; No occupation; living on small income<br />
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Can read and write; No mortgage; Living in House (versus Farm)<br />
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We must now cite this source and the documentation for this census record would be: <em>"Alice McCarthy - 1910 US Federal Census - Shelter Island, Suffolk, New York; Roll: T624_1083; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 1382; Image: 422; FHL Number: 1375096. (Shelter Island is about 3 m. from Greenport)"</em><br />
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So now we can add the following to what we know about Alice:<br />
She was born approximately 1848<br />
Her husband died prior to 1910<br />
She bore 2 children and they are both living in 1910<br />
She was living in a mortgage free house living on a small income<br />
She speaks English and can read and write<br />
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Each one of these facts might point us in a direction to find additional information, such as the fact that she was living in a mortgage free house....property records can be a great source.<br />
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In my next post I'll discuss a little bit about documentation.<br />
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</div>Karin Corbeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03600657209860154173noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7752938957295393135.post-8333287255978449742011-11-11T15:58:00.000-05:002011-11-23T14:24:12.228-05:00Finding Alice Foley McCarthyA few weeks ago I came across the following newspaper article. I have no idea who this woman is or anything about her. I am not related to her...at least I don't think so. I thought, wouldn't it be fun to research her and her family and try and connect all the dots. So today I am posting the first chapter in <strong>"Finding Alice Foley McCarthy"</strong>. As I discover new things about her I will post accordingly. So let's get started and let's see what we can find out. <br />
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What does this small, 10 line, article tell us about Alice?<br />
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From the Suffolk County News 23 Jul 1920<br />
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You can see my Ancestry.com public file at: <a href="http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/31759136/family" target="_blank">New York City Foley Families</a><br />
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And yes, I titled this post "Method to my Madness...." because I have ulterior motives. For some time now I have been searching for the Foley family who is "mine". I was not raised by my biological family. In fact, I don't even know who they are! <br />
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I'll go into that later and I will document my search, my theories, my DNA connections, all with the hope of finding someone who may know "who I am".<br />
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My second motive has to do with ongoing encouragement to teach a course in Genealogy at the OSHA Lifelong Learning Institute at Clemson University. I have started to put together a course curriculum of a genealogical journey, tapping into a family that I came across by finding one small newspaper article published in 1920 on Long Island. I knew nothing about her or her family prior to my research. I will post this journey of discovery as new evidence is found. It should be interesting to see what unravels.<br />
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